James____ : hi anyone familiar with g4l?, I backup my laptop with the lzop compression but the iamge is 50 gig... even my laptop is just a clean slack13.1 install
adrien : g4l? and lzop isn't meant for hihgh compression
James____ : ghost4linux
James____ : how can i get the image smaller, or make it to iso or something so it become smaller
adrien : James____: use bzip2 or xz/lzma2
adrien : (I prefer xz/lzma2)
Master-Passe : James____: if g4l makes the image just by copying every bit from harddrive then image is size of harddrive
Master-Passe : if you don't use some compression
ananke : James____: as noted in ##linux, your issue is related to the fact that you're backing up the entire block device [or partition], rather than a filesystem
adrien : if it's quite 'dumb', you might also 'dd if=/dev/zero of=~/crap bs=1M', it'll help compression
ananke : compression won't do much good if you're backing up unused disk space [which is full of junk eventually]
adrien : what I said will also make recovery of any deleted file impossible
James____ : I used the default lzop encryption
adrien : well, you might want of=/tmp/crap instead, it depends on the partition
adrien : s/encryption/compression/
James____ : err
James____ : compression
James____ : :)
James____ : so the lzop image i have can i somehow make it smaller
James____ : or must i make a new g4l image with another compression
adrien : the best thing would be to tar instead of ghost
adrien : do you want to backup the files or do you have a specific need for the whole drive/partition rather than only its content
ananke : James____: how can you make a truckfull of garbage smaller? by not packing a truck full of garbage in the first place
James____ : so if making new images
James____ : which compressions must i use in g4l
adrien : ananke++
adrien : well said :-)
ananke : James____: doesn't really matter
James____ : it has gzip,lzop,gzip2
Master-Passe : James____: non of those helps
James____ : it says in documentation lzop will be smaller and run faster
ananke : James____: lzop is fine. again, the issue is not with compression
adrien : lzop faster than bzip2? tell me who wrote that so I can burn him
Master-Passe : :D
adrien : s/faster/smaller/ of course ;-)
James____ : so i should try with bzip2 intead of lzop?
ananke : wow. it's like a brick wall
Master-Passe : :D

raela: there should be an irc age limit
rob0: If there was an age limit, I'd be too old for IRC!
thumbs: old fart.
rob0: I prefer the title of Senior Flatulent.

< ericoc> 0
< pparadis> 1
< Perihelion> 2
< pparadis> 0b11
< ericoc> 3
< pparadis> you lose
< ericoc> yes
< Perihelion> Wow Phil you piece of shit why would you do that
< Perihelion> holy crap
< pparadis> hahahaha
< pparadis> <-- asshole

< JessiJames> question: why just feature gnome?
< Kent> Cause it's ubuntu

< diwwin> caker: no. what does that chown do?
< diwwin> caker: I might have. I am too new at this.
<@caker> diwwin: who owns these? ls -dl /var/log/ /bin/ /usr/
< atourino> diwwin: it recursively changes the owner of that directory (and all it's contents, hence the recursive part) to be owned by aegir
< diwwin> I just noticed everyting in /etc/ is also owned by aegir.
< diwwin> Is it time to redeploy Karmic?
<@caker> diwwin: k, reinstall.
< atourino> diwwin: I dont know if you'd like my opinion.... but I say... fuck aegir
< diwwin> caker: What does k, reinstall do?
<@Perihelion> -.o
< diwwin> atourino: aegir is the goal
< atourino> he's saying you should do a clean reinstall
< atourino> ok, reinstall
< diwwin> someday, someday, I will look back on this and laugh. now I just laugh to keep from crying.

< pegwole> Slackware Linux, the best of 1995 on 3 disks.
< Kirok> The best 1995 has to offer
<+jlindsay> Pat said that for real one day on tllts.
Something like Slackware hasn't been
relevant since 1995.
< pegwole> I changed it to make it more current.
< pegwole> Also I shouldn't talk smack about Slackware,
Alan Hicks might kick my ass.
< ClaudioM> hahahah
< ClaudioM> only if you say it in ##slackware

<+notKlaatu> i use touchpad gestures on my macbook.
three swipes the left, one swipe up, two
diagonal, a tap, another swipe to the left,
and bang! text.
< pegwole> So your big secret gesture was a right
triangle?
< Integgroll> notKlaatu: what sort of alien language is
that?
<+notKlaatu> a dumb one
< Integgroll> obviously
< ClaudioM> pegwole: I think notKlaatu has a gesture for
you but not easily displayed in IRC

09:39 <resno> so, i want to do stress testing on a site. what should iuse?
09:40 <Integgroll> 4chan

< EthanG> I wonder if it's a gnome thing. I start `nvidia-settings -l` in .xinitrc, anyone know if libgobject libgmodule or libgio are part of gnome and/or liable to load gnome settings?
< gaurav__> i am using xfce
< mancha> that could be, i am unawarew of what nvidia does...
< EthanG> mmhmm. I doubt they'd turn it on intentionally, but I don't trust gnome not to :)
< mancha> well what config file does nvidia-setting -l load?
< mancha> look in there
< EthanG> mancha: it doesn't itself have any keyboard-related options, but like I said I don't trust gnome
< mancha> cat ~/.nvidia-settings-rc
< EthanG> nofin, lol
< mancha> good luck.
* EthanG starts suspecting HAL
< mancha> nah
< mancha> i suspect your inability to form a coherent explanation of your setup
< mancha> you mix WM with customized xinit's with gnome settings (?>) with mentions of glib2 libraries (??) with blaming HAL
< mancha> sounds like you're very confused to me :)
< EthanG> well it obviously isn't anything sane that's enabling it
< mancha> i don;'t know what that means.
< mancha> why did you bring up gnome, have you added gnome to slackware?
< EthanG> no... oh of course slack doesn't have gnome libs. ok I can cross that one off then
< admboom> LOL Monday Morning entertainment.
< EthanG> ... unless those libs I don't recognize are xfce libs XD
< mancha> is ethang a known troll?
< sahko> Slackware of course has gnome libs. they're even used by kde
< EthanG> mancha: I'm just pissed off with all this crazy in my OS, lol
< EthanG> thank you sahko
< sahko> i didnt follow the discussion, i just read the last part
< mancha> we noticed
< mancha> EthanG, the crazy, as you describe it was added by you. An virgin slackware, untainted by EthanG, does not do this.

<hidekazu> slackware is evil
<adrien> so, that was the word of god? took 56 minutes to say it?
<hidekazu> :-D
<Skywise> metatron is a slow typist
<adrien> argh, 54 minutes =/
<hidekazu> I have another message from god...
<Skywise> we've already heard it
<dive> is it /quit ?
[11:40:21] hidekazu [~dsm@188-222-36-81.zone13.bethere.co.uk] has quit IRC: Quit: (Yes, it is)
<dive> lol